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onvogmasaj (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
YES WE CAN
ELFARJOJO (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
1 john 4:16 "We have come to know and rely on the love that God has for us. God is love, and the person who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him."
formless777 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Well to use your own argument, the same can be said of the nature of hope in humans. People will find hope in the silliest things. For my money Hope is just the last demon in Pandora's box, lol. You say people without hope sit and die, and that is true of a certain kind of person. Others see the loss of hope as also the loss of fear. It is often the fear of failure that hope engenders that cripples us. Loss of hope means we can act without hesitation.
illusionoffame (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
interesting formless. But isn't that like saying ppl with no love have no reason to get hurt by it, therefore are better off and more strong?Fear is very innate and natural part of humanity. We can deny it, but can't avoid it. And people who have no hope will simply sit and die. Only reason we endure through all the pain and suffering in this world is because we have hope. Don't you think? I think you are the first one to say hopeless people will get up to achieve something...
illusionoffame (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Go with any version blighty. Go to King James Bible...but read the whole chapter. Too many Christians and non-Christians alike take a single verse and conceive some fantastic idea as they seem fit around it. (Like the time one insane Christian wrote about how God loves anal sex by stringing some verses and used completely out of context)Anyway, read the whole chapter (or verses 11~20) and you'll see that it "lists" the things that shall not be worshipped, and they include the sun, moon n stars
illusionoffame (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
are you from america nuff?your generalisation of religion seem awfully bear resemblance to American Evangelican and Pentecostal Churches...which are hardly a good example of organised religion.I don't believe non-communal, individual belief in God is any more useful than the one of organised religion...as it then becomes "my own God", not "our God".Didn't Jesus say, after all, "when two or more are gathered in my name, I'll be there"?
formless777 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
False hope is worse than no hope. False hope is the real "demon" (read "monster of the human imagination") humans face and religion is right in there doing the evil work. People who have no hope have nothing to lose, no fear, and are in a much better position to use their desparation to achieve positive change. Give them religion and they just sit around waiting for a "rescue party" that will never arrive.
illusionoffame (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
n where do ppl get these idea that religions r 'controlling' the people with fear? do they also not give an incentive for living good? Do Hindus not have a chance to reincarnate into higher cast for living good? Did Jesus not say "Do not be afraid. I will be with until the end of time?"In this world ridden with fear, religions are a few agents that actually give people hope.The true fear using agents r the secular consumer media, which use our fear of inadequacies 2 get us to buy their stuff
illusionoffame (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
an interesting film.but perhaps, made many wrong connections with the bible and other religions?Eg: @ 1:30, it explains that the bible guided people to worship sun, stars, etc, etc and people build those structures.Those buildings are from Egyptian, Mayan, South Easter Asian cultures...who did not read the Old Testament (Hebrew scriptures). Many did not even know it existed, let alone read it.
coupons2007 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Yeah... Deuteronomy 4:19 actually was a warning NOT to worship the stars, but nice point as a video overall anyway. (I personally wouldn't take it quite to level have though with the NWO bit) |