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Previously unbroadcast clips from a 1968 interview with JRR Tolkien in which he outlines some of the mythology from Lord of the Rings.Transcription (thanks to okiltex):Everybody, including divine spirits under god, makes mistakes in this mythology, and of course the gods made a primary error. Instead of leaving elves and men to find out their way under the guidance of god, they invited the elves because the rebel amongst them, the wicked god Melkor, was alive and devastated a large part of the world. They took them back into their paradise in the west to protect them, and so the whole machinery starts from the rebellion of the elves, and therefore, in rebellion of the evil they did in their bursting out from paradise.So what you've got in our period is two lots of elves: The ones that never started, just didn't want to, never bothered to be anything higher than they were, were the ordinary woodland elves of the far-east.Those who started to go to divine paradise and never got there, which are the grey elves of the west, and those who got and came back as exiled.The higher elves, who sing this song to Elbereth in the beginning of the Lord of the Rings, are exiled elves who had once known what it was to see the ?emerging? gods in person.Now dwarves create a difficulty, don't they, in this particular thing. They have certain grievances against men and against elves. They are incarnate in bodies. While they are like ourselves, we don't know much about them, but they apparently are mortal, they are ?longeval?. Where do they come into the scheme? Well of course, a great deal of sort to provide their origin.I don't think I'll say anything about it at the moment, but they have a rational origin related to their theme, but they are not part of the children of god. That's all I can really say about this.Men are just men.

Channel: News & Politics
Uploaded: December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm
Author: richardhead

Length: 02:06
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Gilgamesh73 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Ronald was so full of himself.
Brew4me111 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
tolkein says so himself in the forward of the fellow ship of the ring that the story is not an alagory for anything. it is his own history that he made up.
StLucas776 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
wagner's ring cycle was an opera, and the only ring mentioned was a ring made by a dwarf with gold stolen from the rhine river. it certainly involved a lot of norse mythology, and may indeed have inspired tolkein, but in no way is he ripping it off
jonkind (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
you must be joking right. he is a hack ? He is not acknowledged as a great writer ? where the f*** did you come from ? now see, i never even heard of a wagner ring trilogy isnt that funny ?
mythicalpoet (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Tolkien ripped off Wagner's Ring Trilogy--do the research for yourself before you bitch and moan and attack my character. And besides that he shares the profound racism of Wagner. You are probably ignorant of that fact as well. Tolkien was a literary hack and people would do well to know that. This is why he is not ackowledged as a great writer.
rodog69 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
How Eru(Ilúvatar) or God as he is referred to by Tolkien here. Was of very little resembles to the Catholic God. But here is a little fun fact. When Gandalf died in the fight with the Balrog, it was beyond the power of the Valar to resurrect him: Ilúvatar himself intervened to send Gandalf back.
Cmey2k (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
what I speak about Tolkien snd mythology is common knowledge and not debated as to it's authenticity among scholars. i am speaking specifically of pagan fertility gods.
roac7777 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
I have to beg to differ Cmey2k insomuch that there is alot of Greek Mythology and Norse mythology in the books, ie: The Greek panteon of gods and norse ie The Undying lands - Valhalla. There are no churches, no Jesus or messiah.Wizards, trolls, orcs, dragons are all part of norse myth.In the end, like I have said before, there lies the readers interpretation of the spiritual side of the books.
roac7777 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Firstly, I dont like your foul language commercialx, very orc like.Secondly, with all art whether it be books, paintings and sculptures the artist has his/her own interpretation but just as importantly so does the reader or the viewer.When we talk about our own interpretation we dont mean the main story line we are referring to the spiritual/religous side of the book.Have a care and think before you write scurrilous remarks.
Lion117 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
astoundin'


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