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rjzombie (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Los felicito por sus discusiones acerca de un escritor increible, un saludo desde Venezuela...
s7rugg1e (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Well, the fact that Carver begged Lish not to publish "What We Talk About..." speaks volumes. I think that Lish simply filled the vacuum that Gardner left behind. It is amazing that youtube can sometimes facilitate literary analysis and discussion like this. I should send you my grad papers.
keytoothed (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Your point is not badly taken. To a point I agree. Carver, like all writers, hated being boxed. But I'm not interested in how Carver defined himself, I'm interested in the texts as they exist. The Lish/Carver relationship was not one way. Carver learned much from Lish's cuts. Even the later rewrites of the Lish edits, in my opinion, like "A Small Good Thing," are minimalist.
s7rugg1e (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
However, the point that Carver himself adamantly rejected and furthermore hated the term "minimalist" says a lot. Lish even boasted that he made Carver, but as you say the later Gallagher influenced works "Cathedral" etc show Carver's other side, and now that Lishes' papers have been released, we shall soon see the real Carver.
catabal (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Carver, gran cuentista. Es un escritor esencial, sobrio, sin estridencias. Es uno de mis escritores preferidos.
keytoothed (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Your statement is not completely accurate. Even though Lish may have heavily edited Carver's fiction (how much, we may never know, because of legal wrangling), they were edits that Carver nonetheless not only accepted but internalized throughout his career. His middle stories ("Cathedral") and later stories ("Errand") have more meat, as but their style is still compressed.
keytoothed (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Muy bien hecho. Me gustó mucho. Gracias por el video.Qué todavía estuviese vivo.
s7rugg1e (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Carver is not a minimalist. Gordon Lish made him a minimalist, and his new unedited stories will prove this.
fernandodelrios (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Gracias! por mantener vivo a un hombre que consiguió por medio de un código, de una cifra, de símbolos, ser un causante de emociones |
