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ShiaAfghan (August 18, 2008 at 8:14 pm)
And what proof do you have that Imam Ali buried Talha? Is it a hadith narrated by the fabricator Abu Huraira? The Prophet chose his successor, Imam Ali, at Ghadeer-E-Khum, yet his "companions" betrayed him. While Imam Ali gave the Prophet's body a ghusl, Abu Bakr was busying himself with the bid'ah "election". Think logically for a second: If there are 2 people who are chosen by Allah to propagate Islam, how can they fight with one another? How can Allah be just if he sends down imperfect ppl?
johnabraham1989 (August 18, 2008 at 11:35 am)
Imam Ali was the one who buried Talha with his bare hands and cried out "this was the man whose sword protected the prophet s.a.w" There's a saying that even the teeth accidentally bites the tongue, what more humans have disagreements as well. it is conceivable that Allah would send his most beloved creation Muhammad s.a.w companions that immedietly after his death would apostate? RAther we believe the companions were chosen by Allah himself to be the propogaters of the religion of Allah.
ShiaAfghan (August 18, 2008 at 7:30 am)
Oh yeah...blame it on the Jews. How convenient to make them a scapegoat. What about the countless times the Prophet praised Imam Ali (a.s.)? "I am the city of knowledge and Ali is it's gate."People who "love each other deep down" would not start wars with one another. About 10,000 people died. How can you rationally say that they loved each other? Astaghfurallah use your aql. And how dare you praise Yazid the tyrant. Yazid was in charge of the army! May Allah remove him from His Mercy.
Buukkuu (August 17, 2008 at 12:37 am)
i agree with you.allah ibarik feek
johnabraham1989 (August 15, 2008 at 1:12 pm)
No, Aisyah r.a the mother of the believers did not start a war with the lion of Allah ALi r.a. There was a lot of confusion and the jews took advantage of it and forged letters here and there to divide the ummah. Even during the 'war', the sahabas in opposing camps were marrying their daughters off to one another. Brother, the sahaba even though they would fight each other their intentions were not for personal gain it was to make the word of Allah supreme. Deep down they loved each other
johnabraham1989 (August 15, 2008 at 1:08 pm)
Dear brother, The hadiths were regarded sahih as other prominent sahabas have recounted the incident in seperate acccounts. Yazid r.a after Iman Hussayn was matryed was extremely sorrowful and he cursed the man who killed him. He even took care of the son of imam Hussayn for 3 days and refused to eat until after Zainal Abidin would sit with him.
ShiaAfghan (August 14, 2008 at 9:37 pm)
As for your hadith and letters, don't you know that thousands of hadiths were fabricated? Tell me this John,Why did Aisha wage war against Imam Ali at the battle of Jamal?Why did Muawiyah break the peace treaty with Hasan?Why did Abu Bakr burn down Fatima's house and steal the Fadak?Why did Yazid slaughter the grandson of the Holy Prophet?Why did Bibi Fatima refuse to speak with Umar?
ShiaAfghan (August 14, 2008 at 9:35 pm)
JohnAbraham, do you really believe that garbage? Think rationally: Does it make sense to start a WAR against a person because he supposedly didn't punish a murderer? LOL! You are willing to kill thousands of people to PUNISH ONE MAN?! Come on brother, you have a brain. As a Muslim, you should know better than to blindly follow such things.
johnabraham1989 (August 14, 2008 at 7:41 pm)
And even during the war Between Muawiyah r.a and ALi r.a, when there was threat of a ROman invasion Muawiyah wrote a letter to the roman emperor saying, " if u invade the muslim lands i will give up my power to my brother Ali and together we will crush u"
johnabraham1989 (August 14, 2008 at 7:38 pm)
Aisha r.a togehther with Talha r.a and Zubair r.a wanted justice for the unjust murder of Uthman r.a. Let me tell u shias one thing, When the house of Uthman was besieged Ali r.a sent both Hasan r.a And Hussayn r.a to protect Uthman r.a. We have several hadiths about how the body of Hasan r.a were drenched in blood trying to protect Uthman r.a |
