x0utsideofthis (September 7, 2008 at 4:30 am)

well because botch was way before and led the way for metal bands. doi.

catchtheconspirator (August 29, 2008 at 11:46 pm)

first of all, let me say that i LOVE the music. but i'm sincerely confused/curious: what do people mean by "logical pattern and/or progression" of the songs? can anyone actually explain this to me? or why botch is necessarily better than The Chariot or Norma Jean? i'm totally open to persuasion...

DCslayerX (August 27, 2008 at 10:51 pm)

botch has been dead since 2002, they are the one band i would pay any amount of money to see.DEP is okay, but after calculating infinity it went downhill.

DCslayerX (August 27, 2008 at 10:50 pm)

you are correct sir.

suburbiaburnsred (August 24, 2008 at 4:18 pm)

damn i just wikipediad mathcore and i saw norma jean being comically referred to as a botch rip off... so i searched botch on youtube.these guys fuckin' rock

AntSanchez909 (August 23, 2008 at 1:36 am)

DEP is still great, just gotta open up to it

ConiferTreez (August 22, 2008 at 8:45 pm)

Except DEP fucked up and became a terrible band. BOTCH quit while they were still on top

AntSanchez909 (August 22, 2008 at 8:36 pm)

Long live Botch and Dillinger Escape Plan, both have reached Mathcore nirvana

AbasketOfOpinions (August 19, 2008 at 7:13 pm)

get out.

bldsucker (August 19, 2008 at 7:51 am)

CURL UP AND DIE MAKES ME HAPPY