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CrumblyButGood (June 15, 2008 at 8:28 am)
"Ken Miller is like Popeye the Science Man, opening up cans of scientific whoopass on an island full of grunting ID Goons. 'I'll take you all on one at a time! A-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah!!!'"- methinxaweezil
avalsonline (June 11, 2008 at 5:44 pm)
type III secretory system is observable in today's oranisms
JAMRAND (June 3, 2008 at 5:18 pm)
Dam what did I say to recieve (poor comment.) I looked at serpent slayers comment and havent a clue why his comment would be hidden.He is actually right, The evolution of the bacterial flagellum is but an argument. Even Ken Miller agrees.These militants have to stop and quit hating.
JAMRAND (May 22, 2008 at 11:58 pm)
I think the actual prediction is that some of the parts are original.
DonExodus2 (May 20, 2008 at 10:39 pm)
No- the prediction is that all parts should be useless. Indeed, the other proteins seen also have redundancies, demonstrating evolution as the only logical cause.
JAMRAND (May 20, 2008 at 8:57 pm)
Don, Ken removed 40 parts to use as an example and found a use for the remnantWhat about just losing 2 parts what happens then.It seemed convenient for him to reduce to a functional system. What about the current data stating the motor is older than the machine. Doesnt that support behe and refute ken miller.
HarryPothead6009 (May 15, 2008 at 4:25 am)
Did you even listen to the video serpentslayer1? He just showed a list with all of the homologies of each protein section of the flagellum. What more evidence do you want?
DonExodus2 (May 9, 2008 at 6:53 pm)
???No lol. It is the type III secretory system, case closed.
A4AgnstcFndmntlst (May 9, 2008 at 6:32 am)
"we have no conclusive evidence that the individual parts functioned some place else. Were just presumimg the "possibality that that might have.""Dude, hello, you need to put on your science goggles. Did you skip the type III secretory?
SerpentSlayer1 (May 8, 2008 at 4:33 pm)
As miller says 'this is an ARGUMENT, not evidence. We see the flagella as a whole but we have no conclusive evidence that the individual parts functioned some place else. Were just presumimg the "possibality that that might have."BEHE'S ARGUMENT STILL STANDS. |
